tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17209233.post3466392080590395914..comments2023-09-30T11:58:07.453-04:00Comments on The Frugal Duchess: Recovering My Frugal Groove: The Frugal Sampler: Free Newspapers, Tea & Gyms: Theft or Fair?Frugal Duchesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00505138013388396364noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17209233.post-55045326281263259792007-12-15T21:21:00.000-05:002007-12-15T21:21:00.000-05:00Hey LongBeachBabe:I've also received the Victoria ...Hey LongBeachBabe:<BR/><BR/>I've also received the Victoria Secret's coupon for freebies.<BR/><BR/>LOL Yeah, tempting, but I'm with you on that point.<BR/><BR/>Besides, the store would win. I'd walk out with one freebie and bagful of new purchases. I save by not using the coupon. ;)<BR/><BR/>Warm Wishes,<BR/>SharonFrugal Duchesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00505138013388396364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17209233.post-85779878145172091122007-12-15T21:16:00.000-05:002007-12-15T21:16:00.000-05:00Caroline:Your comments on 7 & 8 (gym membership qu...Caroline:<BR/><BR/>Your comments on 7 & 8 (gym membership questions) are in line with my thoughts.<BR/><BR/>(All of your answers made me think deeper about the issues.)<BR/><BR/>The children's sized drinks are interesting because I'm paying for the portion size. I think I will call Starbuck's PR and ask them to address the issue.<BR/><BR/>Overall I appreciated your summary:<BR/><BR/><BR/>"I think if you are questioning the fairness of anything, you should err on the side of caution. There are many ways to justify some of our choices but if you aren't completely sure it's right - don't do it."<BR/><BR/>Take Care & Thanks so much for taking the time to comment.<BR/><BR/>SharonFrugal Duchesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00505138013388396364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17209233.post-32825430126565583692007-12-15T21:11:00.000-05:002007-12-15T21:11:00.000-05:00Father Sez: Your streamlined rule sounds like a ru...Father Sez: <BR/><BR/>Your streamlined rule sounds like a rule that one of my friends gave me: "When in doubt, do without."<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your thoughts. You've given me a lot to think about.<BR/><BR/>Best Wishes,<BR/>SharonFrugal Duchesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00505138013388396364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17209233.post-78709189352165012732007-12-15T21:09:00.000-05:002007-12-15T21:09:00.000-05:00Marcus:Thanks! I agree with many of your answers. ...Marcus:<BR/><BR/>Thanks! I agree with many of your answers. About 1&2: You're right. When my parents are there, I feel comfortable helping myself to lobby perks. Otherwise, I feel like an intruder or an uninvited party guest.<BR/><BR/>about #4: Yeah, Security issues!!!<BR/><BR/>I like the distinctions and shades in your comments.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for writing. You are so thoughtful.<BR/>Take Care,<BR/>SharonFrugal Duchesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00505138013388396364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17209233.post-87193832345183633442007-12-15T21:00:00.000-05:002007-12-15T21:00:00.000-05:00Hi Aino:I appreciate your response, especially #4....Hi Aino:<BR/><BR/>I appreciate your response, especially #4. Security issues are a big issue. Someone could harvest my password from a public machine.<BR/><BR/>And about 5&6: I hate the super-sized portions. I am small and the huge adult portions are wasted on me. Forget the doggy bags; I would rather just pay less for smaller servings.<BR/><BR/>Thanks so much your reply. It's such a delight to get a response.<BR/><BR/>Best Wishes,<BR/>SharonFrugal Duchesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00505138013388396364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17209233.post-80398521689442479212007-12-15T11:28:00.000-05:002007-12-15T11:28:00.000-05:00I've always felt funny for some reason about using...I've always felt funny for some reason about using freebies like you mentioned. I even feel funny using those coupons for free panties at Victoria's Secret. Honestly though, I wonder if the people even notice people taking advantage though? I mean, these companies probably make so much $$$$ that it's not a huge deal anyways ;).Random Ramblingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15784061731703091760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17209233.post-72362405932527634172007-12-15T08:17:00.000-05:002007-12-15T08:17:00.000-05:00Hi SharonMy ethics are a bit hazy but this is my t...Hi Sharon<BR/><BR/>My ethics are a bit hazy but this is my take on your moral dilemmas.<BR/><BR/>1. Reading free copies of the WSJ is probably ok. You can put the paper back and it hasn't disadvantaged the hotel at all<BR/><BR/>2. Free copy and tea at the hotel would be a no-no. These are items you would be consuming at a cost to the hotel.<BR/><BR/>3. Occasional free chocolates are ok. The freebies are bringing you back to the store, which may entice you to purchase more than you would if you weren't in the store. Using restraint definitely stops you from abusing the system.<BR/><BR/>4. Checking email or googling at the apple store is a tricky one for me. Because it's not substantial, I tend to believe it's less like theft. But maybe it is. I don't know. A good rule might be to suggest that if you're not prepared to pay for it, then you shouldn't consume it. <BR/><BR/>5. Adults ordering children's drinks at Starbucks. Absolutely OK. You are paying for what you get - you wouldn't pay for a large if you only wanted a regular, why pay for a regular if you prefer a small?<BR/><BR/>6. Ditto <BR/><BR/>7. Free gym passes. If you really are checking out the gyms, it's ok. If you have no intention of joining then it's probably not ok. Try a couple of gyms then choose one. <BR/><BR/>8. Ditto. If you want to regularly attend a gym, pay for it. <BR/><BR/>I think if you are questioning the fairness of anything, you should err on the side of caution. There are many ways to justify some of our choices but if you aren't completely sure it's right - don't do it.<BR/><BR/>Carolinehervor the howlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08047354937273472368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17209233.post-80998107479877830432007-12-15T08:14:00.000-05:002007-12-15T08:14:00.000-05:00Duchess,If you feel uncomfortable, then it is not ...Duchess,<BR/><BR/>If you feel uncomfortable, then it is not right. A simple rule that I try to follow.Father Sezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06123124877638945944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17209233.post-25574661049579009492007-12-15T00:50:00.000-05:002007-12-15T00:50:00.000-05:00#1 & #2 - As long as your parents are guests no pr...#1 & #2 - As long as your parents are guests no problem, however if they are not guests than I consider it wrong.<BR/><BR/>#3 - Is trickier, but I would say it is probably not a good thing to keep helping yourself. <BR/><BR/>#4. Nope, the connections are demonstrative purposes only plus think of privacy and keeping your e-mail and such yours.<BR/><BR/>#5 Again, no. The drinks are intended for children they should be limited to children. Clark Howard has written a fair amount on coffee.<BR/><BR/>#7 I have less a problem with this as long as you are looking to settle in at one gym, however if you keep rotating then it passes from acceptable to unacceptable.<BR/><BR/>#8 On occasional basis I would consider it fair.<BR/><BR/>Most of these are cheap that is the short term savings is going to be eclipsed by long term losses.<BR/><BR/>A colleague I had in the UAE would visit shops and ask for samples of schwermas & falafels. He would get a nibble or two and move on to the next shop and repeat until he was full for the night, without actually purchasing anything. He fretted over a broom purchase because he might not be around the following year and he would have spent money on an item he would not use over two years (now I think of the source this may have been a joke, he had another good one to use to describe extremely cheap friends, but I refrain from telling here on this less than rated-R blog).<BR/><BR/>In the end I think the net loss is greater than the benefit. It is cheap not frugal.Marcus Aureliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12731740191789466205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17209233.post-91694613418492540712007-12-14T19:58:00.000-05:002007-12-14T19:58:00.000-05:001. Free copies of the Wall Street Journal. Once in...1. Free copies of the Wall Street Journal. <BR/>Once in a while I think it's acceptable - but I wouldnt' do this on a regular basis. That's when it goes over the ethical line for me. <BR/><BR/>2. Ditto - if you have some kind of reason to be in the vicinit, and help yourself to some freebies, then it's fine - but if you make it a point to go there just for the freebies...not so acceptable? <BR/><BR/>3. Yes :) The free samples are a marketing ploy to me, so even if I make a purchase only once in a way, it'll probably be a big enough purchase to make me not feel guilty about the samples :) <BR/><BR/>4. I wouldn't do this for privacy/security issues anyway. Unless it was an emergency. <BR/><BR/>5&6. I think this is a good idea - you're saving money AND your health. Today's portion sizes are ridiculous - and since you're paying for the item, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I hate it when restaurants dont allow you to buy off children's menu! <BR/><BR/>7. This would be tedious i think, so I persoanlyl wouldn't do it just because it's hard enough to motivate myself to go to A gym, never mind rotate several gyms :) Of course I do think it's okay to "shop" around, so long as you will ultimately make a decision - say within a month or so. <BR/><BR/>8. For this, I would actually offer to split the cost of my friend's membership :) That's the only "ethical" dilemma i'd hav e- do I pay half, or do I pay on a per-use basis etc? I have no problems jipping the gym (higher-end ones anyway) because I feel like their pricings can be ridiculously high! :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com